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I would value adoptive parents suggestions that have had experience of a traumatised adoptive child awaiting a major operation.

Simon September 20, 2019 15:59

How can I help my adoptive son’s NHS hospital, surgeon and clinicians etc become “trauma & attachment aware?”

I am really hoping that there may be adoptive parents (or even NHS staff) on this forum that will have had experience of working with the NHS in creating a “pathway” (or outline) for their traumatised adoptive child with attachment issues who is due to undergo major surgery.

My son, who is now 11 (year 7), has a severe form of scoliosis (an S shaped spine). This is something that he has lived with for many years. As far as I can tell, his social worker first expressed concern when he went into care aged 4. Unfortunately, due to two foster placement breakdowns and the trauma he suffered after having 17 teeth extracted, no diagnosis was ever made regarding his odd shaped spine. My son came to live with my partner and I when he was 6. I took him to a specialist paediatrician, but despite the large curved lump on his back and my inexperience as a newbie parent; the doctor made a miss diagnosis and gave my son the all clear. To cut a long journey short, when my son was 10, his GP referred him to our local hospital in Coventry. My son was diagnosed with a severe form of scoliosis. He was then referred to the Royal Orthopaedic Hospital in Birmingham. My son is now on the waiting list, awaiting surgery. His operation is highly complex. His surgeon intends to insert 2 magnetic roads into his back, with the hope of magnetically stretching these rods to straighten his spine.

To say it has been an uphill struggle with the NHS would be the understatement of the century. At every level, from GP to hospital, the knowledge/ability of NHS doctors/clinicians etc as to how to support an adoptive child who has encountered trauma and adverse childhood experiences is poor/inconsistent. I have advocated hard for our son, something I am very happy to do. I am pleased that we have come this far. For my son, it is not just a question of getting into the car driving to the hospital. His trauma is so great that I have to work with the hospital in advance. For example, when my son had his first x-ray & MRI scan, I went without him to the hospital and met with all his doctors and nurses. I came home with photos of the NHS staff and the machines etc to show my son. Together, we then went every week at 8am to our local hospital in Coventry (i.e. when it was quiet), until my son felt safe enough to have his scan.

I have now hit an NHS brick wall with the Royal Orthopaedic Hospital in Birmingham (ROH). Initially, things went extremely well with the ROH i.e. my pre-visits, and photos etc. But then appointments started getting cancelled, causing my son great anxiety and stress and best laid plans fell apart. Unfortunately, at my son’s last clinic in January this year, my son’s surgeon told him that the rods in his back could snap, he could go blind and that he could die.

The anxiety and trauma around my son’s surgeon’s comments is impossible to underplay. For example, on the way home from this particular clinic, my son triggered into very violent and angry behaviour and tried to get out of the car while we were travelling at 70 mph down the M6. Over the following days, he became violent and aggressive at school etc.

What can I do to further support my son?

At the moment, I am unable to get my son into the car to travel up the M6 to the Royal Orthopaedic Hospital. He will trigger into very violent/dangerous behaviour. As far as my son is concerned “they want to kill me”.

I am working with the ROH patient liaison manager to get support. We get on very well and she understands my son and the support that he needs. However, my son’s surgeon/clinicians less so. I asked my MP for help. The hospital trust acting CEO, saw this as a formal complaint. The clinicians took it that I wished to queue jump the long waiting list. Nothing, is or could be further from the truth. All I wish is to create the right environment for my son’s mental health needs i.e. constancy, certainty, good psychological support and loving pastoral care. For the operation to succeed, my son needs to feel safe and secure. Only then he will just about get through his operation and out the other side.

I am due to meet with my son’s surgeon and the ROH medical director in the near future. I would like to go to the meeting with some suggestions for our son’s “pathway” i.e. from his next clinic appointment through to discharge.

What sort of things should I ask for?

The big thing is his mental health. My son has poor self-esteem, attachment issues and a lot of childhood trauma regarding hospitals due to his early years neglect. Have any adoptive parents, or NHS staff suggestions that I can put forward to my son’s clinicians to include on his “pathway?”

I remain positive (most of the time!). We will get through this, although sometimes I am not sure at what expense to my son’s mental wellbeing, our family life and my nerves! Mercifully, the majority of my son’s doctors, nurses and NHS staff have been lovely and shown great empathy towards him. I am not looking to complain, or negativity – these things won’t help my son. All I wish is the very best for my son, for him to succeed and flourish into adulthood. Thank you in advance for your suggestions and top tips.

Take care all.

Simon

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Zora September 20, 2019 19:25

Sorry, Simon, it all sounds horrendous and traumatic and I am afraid I am in no position to advise.

However, please be aware that this is a public forum. Anyone, including the NHS staff in question, could read this. You have given away some easily identifiable information. It may be a good idea to blank out names. I am not trying to be patronising, but you really want to protect your privacy, you just never know who is reading the boards and how they might use the information you have given.

I hope some wiser people with actual suggestions on how to go forward will be along soon. Take care.

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peartree September 22, 2019 12:25

Our son Partridge has had a few operations. We found paediatrics better than adults.

After general anaesthetic Partridge got upset and agitated and hallucinating thought mrPT was a gang member of birth family. he’s screamed and panicked but we were able to settle him.

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Safia September 22, 2019 13:10

It all sounds horrendous and it’s amazing how insensitive some health professional can be! My son had treatment through GOSH - something much simpler - but they had really good preparation. Photo books with the procedures and also photo books introducing various people working on the ward. A playworker available and a play room on the ward (I think it had a games console and table football too) plus they had portable DVD players with suitable DVDs to keep patients occupied in bed. I think there is a lot of awareness in children’s wards about the level of anxiety children experience about surgical procedures now and of course your sons will be so much greater. I think you’re doing the right thing by requesting a planning meeting to discuss how he can best be supported. Do you have anyone such as post adoption worker involved who could accompany you or maybe write a letter explaining his needs? I would suggest several visits but as he’s refusing to go could they let you borrow stuff / or take photos to make your own intro book / or someone visit from the team - maybe a playworker if they have one in the hospital? Alternatively another hospital but that is easier said than done of course

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Chris September 22, 2019 18:09

Having worked in the NHS within the operating department, I'd recommend seeing if there is a Anaesthetic consultant who is interested in Peri-operative care. Where I worked for example adults who were having major operations that would require a stint on Intensive care were shown the wards they'd be admitted on, the operating department, the Intensive care unit and ward they would be going to after. If it was the person that was going to do facilitate the operation as well then that would be doubly helpful. The other thing they would be able to explain is how they're going to get him to sleep wake him up and keep him as pain free as possible. He's a bit older than you would usually expect to do a gas induction of anaesthetic on but it is possible and would forgo needles before the op if that would help.

He'll be going to the paeds wards after and in my experience they're more than happy to help kids who are undergoing major operations and the nurses especially on these wards are amazing.

Also, the other thing would be to maybe seek support from the Scoliosis association, see if they could put him in contact with people who have had the op. That might give him some reassurance, but given his history could backfire too.

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Bop September 22, 2019 21:35

In our experience - albeit an emergency rather than planned procedure, the children's ward staff were great - we had a play therapist who worked with our son and the nurses were very experienced in dealing with children who are struggling. In the end he was put to sleep using gas and air as he couldn't tolerate them trying to put a canula in and the after care was excellent.

One problem we did encounter was a strange side effect of Oromorph - we suspect a psychological/neurological reaction as he had withdrawals from heroin at birth and it triggered a trauma response.

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Trixie88 September 25, 2019 22:17

Hi Simon,

I’m sorry to hear about your son’s traumatic experiences with the preparation for his operation. I think the idea of a photo intro book, and finding out about the process of going to sleep and waking up again, as well as details about other children who have had the same operation could also help with his understandable fear of what could happen. I am an adoptive parent and CAMHS nurse and wonder whether you could ask your local CAMHS team to liaise with the medical staff about how best to support him to ensure the operation can take place, and that he feels safe and supported throughout.

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Simon October 12, 2019 23:56

Thank you all for your kind wishes, views and thoughts. I have noted them all down. I am truly very grateful; it really does make a difference.

Today, the UK Scoliosis Association hosted a patient meeting in Leicester. It was fantastic. A top team of scoliosis surgeons, a specialist anaesthetist and a specialist scoliosis support nurse from The Centre for Spinal Studies at the Queens Medical Centre University Hospital Nottingham were there to inform, help, share and support scoliosis sufferers and their families. They were absolutely magnificent and have given me much hope for my son. I now feel energised and full of ideas to share with my son’s surgeon at the Royal Orthopaedic, Birmingham. I felt very reassured and much relief that the majority of the other patients at today’s meeting shared similar worries to mine; particularly around mental health and emotional support for patients and their families. The surgeons too were very mindful of the importance of strong support both before and post operation and the benefits this has on a patient’s recovery. The specialist anaesthetist understood exactly the trauma and anxieties my son is going through and as for the scoliosis support nurse; I would like to have brought her home with me, she was a real superstar.

Thank you all once again. Simon

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