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Has anyone else had a second opinion assessment done by Pac-UK?

Monkey&McMoo May 9, 2019 16:48

Has anyone else had a second opinion assessment done by Pac-UK? I guess I’m hoping someone else out there has experienced PAC-UK as a second opinion and can give me an idea if this was “normal”.

Having been going through the assessment process since September 2017, we have just finished going through a second opinion assessment done by Pac-UK. We are still waiting for the report from them to be written and sent to our social worker. We have had two sessions with them after our social worker’s manager had concerns over our assessment - She was not happy that our Social worker had recommended us for panel as both my Husband and I suffer from depression. This was despite his previous manager signing us off.

There were two ladies assessing us. One was an Adult Services Counsellor and Advice Line Counsellor, who has been an adoption social worker and manager previously. The other was the Head of Child & Family Service, with over 20 years of professional adoption experience.

The first two hour session included “Sand therapy” with us adding toys to the sand to represent the positive things we could bring as adopters on one side and negative things on the other. We then spent a lot of time holding hands, looking into each other’s eyes describing what represented what, and repeating what the other had said. They gave us a book to read between the sessions.

In the second session (almost three hours) we watched an episode of Family Wanted (BBC 2007), We wrote down and then told each other what we thought the boys were feeling, what the parents were feeling and what had the most emotions impact on us (whilst looking into each other’s eyes and holding hands). We then repeated back to each other what the other had said.

We then talked about what I would need from Monkey, as the parent left at home all day. The two therapist were quite frank about how Monkey may need to be my emotional punch bag if a child was very negative towards me.

Finally, we filled in three different questionnaires/surveys relating to mental health. They gave us really positive vibes at the end of the second session with them giving us tips on how to structure the first few weeks (and months) after placement.

Anyone had anything like that?

McMoo x

Edited 17/02/2021
peartree May 10, 2019 02:56

Hi, I do know PAC and I would be very wary of their team who used to be a PASW manager. There are individuals within the ‘system’ who have made various adopters lives on here and elsewhere utter misery when they needed expensive not straightforward help for their adopted child.

They tend to believe all adoptive parents are at fault if they come to social care asking for assistance when actually it is often the child who cannot manage family and needs robust wrap around help. Instead of helping, this one individual hindered and therefore caused a great deal of damage. Not only our family either, sadly.

Their post adoption counsellors are very good - on the supporting adopters side at PAC- as is their post adoption training so I’m not saying PAC is necessarily the issue. They offer good post adoption support too but only on a paid basis so check out this is coming your way.

Maybe consider just because someone has a long list of experiences doesn’t mean they’ve necessarily learned from them! You could just be naff in lots of jobs couldn’t you?!

Re monkey and emotional punchbag I consider this to be ok. I guess it would be a problem if you were avoidant, had mental health issues like many people naturally are. If there’s no let up hmmm If this looks likely get that support for you written well into the support plan. Get hold of Bryan Post’s book from fear to love. I like the way he helps the parent to help the child. AUK had conferences with him a few years ago, he’s on YOUTUBE a lot.

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Monkey&McMoo May 10, 2019 11:20

Thanks for your thoughts Peartree.

As we are still in the approval process - and PACUK were just being used by our LA as a second opinion - I'm not overly concerned about their views on parents needing help post adoption (if needed I'll check back here for info on who to avoid).

I'm just hoping that they write a truthful - and hopefully good - report in a timely manner. And that my SW's manager is happy with it.

I've ordered the book (god bless Amazon), so will have a good read.

McMoo x

Edited 17/02/2021

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